Dating in Taiwan
The White Guy / Taiwanese Girl thing seems to be a powerful myth for straight Western men here in Taiwan, and I’d like to point out some of the fictional elements of this myth.
Taiwanese girls love us! Could it be that we hang out in the places that also attract the minority of girls who want to date us? After all, very few of us Westerners can speak decent Chinese, or are able to do less ambiguous work than English teaching here, and most of us plan to leave within two years. We are on the periphery of this society, and our lack of assimilation forces us into the places that are set up for us. Although we talk about “getting into the culture”, I invariably encounter most foreigners in foreigner-friendly spots: Wellcome supermarkets, Grandma Nitti’s, Svenson’s… How many Taiwanese friends do you have that you didn’t meet through your job, or in one of these expat – orientated establishments?
Western guys trade stories of the “Psycho Xiao Jie” (who sends 500 text messages a day, and is also sleeping with two of your neighbours), but this kind of woman sounds quite different to the kinds of Taiwanese woman that I’ve met via teaching or through friends. The more typical Taiwanese woman seems to date a total of three men through her teens and twenties, and aims to get married before she’s thirty, so, for a woman like this, dating an English teacher will be a big mistake (he will soon leave Taiwan). There does seem to be a group of women who only want to date foreigners, but they seem a very small minority of the English speaking girls in Taiwan; a much larger number of women feel ambivalent about the idea. We foreigners underestimate our isolation – even in Taipei, I think most local people have no foreign friends, and are not looking for them (hence all the questions about whether you can use chopsticks).
You don’t need to do anything – these girls just come on to you! If anything is an abnormal Taiwanese trait, it must be to begin a conversation with a strange foreigner in order to have sex. If you accept that this is a culture where talking to strangers is often a stressful event, you are either describing a very unusual Taiwanese person, or you have been brainwashed by the myth. I know many single male Westerners here, and it’s clear that they aren’t being hunted down – they ponder the strangeness of this to me (“Maybe if I were taller…”). Perhaps instead, the standard Taiwanese view of us is more accurate: male foreigners who do well with girls spend lots of time on the prowl. I’ve watched friends go through the whole cycle of trying out Tealit, visiting bars, doing language exchanges – all the while sharing recommendations and tactics with each other… My other impression is that we foreigners have very little to do here in Taiwan, which creates this drinking, going to the gym and looking for girls culture. If you’re not learning Chinese, or have something creative to do with your time – what else can you do after work but go to bars?
The girls are beautiful! Well, I agree, but are we saying that particularly beautiful girls seek out foreigners? Is it possible that Taiwan, still rather patriarchal, puts huge pressure on women to look perfect, while men don’t have to do very much? A common sight, after all, is the “Tai-ke” couple: the slim girlfriend in heels and mini-skirt, the chubby boyfriend in a loose t-shirt and flip-flops. Is part of why women seem eager to date you not just because you’re a Westerner, but that social pressure makes it hard for women here to be single and content?
But, at this late stage, most foreign men have been swallowed whole by the myth, and so reality no longer matters. A bar with four “hot” Taiwanese girls and fifteen white guys crowded around them is still a great bar, even though at home, you’d move on immediately; a girl that back in London, you wouldn’t pay much attention to, now is incredibly interesting, because you’ve decided that all girls in Carniege’s must be beautiful and because you’re embarrassed that you haven’t had any luck in three weeks.
Taiwanese women are better than the feminists back home! Now you’re really smoking crack. Many of your instincts about right and wrong will routinely be flouted by your partner: if you would like to date someone who will be chatty and confident in house parties, for example, you may be disappointed. If you want, God forbid, someone who has vaguely similar ideas to yours about raising children, you may be disappointed. The Western men I’ve met here who are married to Taiwanese women rarely talk about how easy it is. Oh – perhaps she’s just joking about needing to get married, about looking after her parents and so on… I suspect she isn’t. And of course, realising all this, many Western men in Taiwan begin the new quest: for the Taiwanese girl who isn’t like other Taiwanese girls. Perhaps it’s impolite to point out that Taiwan is not the best place to look for such a person – could I instead suggest somewhere like San Francisco?
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This article was previously printed in Taiwanease Magazine
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Daniel
Man, good points. Definitely stuff to think about.
Amusing. Good stuff.
Really a fine article that is fun to read!
In my case it actually kind of became reality. I am German and well, I have a Taiwanese gf. I met her at a club and she talked to me first. That was one of the first times I went out in Taipei. And yes, she is beautiful. 
But I have to say that this myth is not all wrong.
We are together now for almost 2 years and going strong.
Greetings from Gongguan, Sebastian
All the ones I met here in the states have black gums and yellow teeth. I tell you what though…they are cute, but need a dentist intervention. To me, you need to live like a two hundred years with a penis that is good for at least 150 years to properly appreciate every piece of ass on planet Earth.
I think some of what you say rings true but I think your throwing out some myths of your own. Like “the more typical taiwanese girl seems to date…” Where are you getting that from? Maybe it’s just the people you associate with? I’ve been here 2 years and i can honestly say I could probably get a different girl’s phone number every day, from girls that I see in public, who smile at me and occasionally say hello. I’m no casonova, but I’m not an idiot either. I know when a girl is intrested. Hell I’ve even had a girl on the MRT with her boyfriend sleeping on her shoulder, give me the eye. So I think your “Standard Taiwanese view of us (foreigners)…” is a little off. Infact it sounds like you read the lonely planet guide to culture for the opinion that girls talking to strangers is stressful. Of course, there are tons of girls here who could care less about me, when I flirt with them. The bottom line is; who cares? If guys and girls wanna hook up and have a little fun then hey, more power to them.
AMEN! It took over a year for me to realize it, but everything you said is 120% on the mark…!
I met my Taiwanese girlfriend in the states but the best way it so teach English in Taiwan because you will meet many more than in the states…better selection and better chance of hooking up. However a lot of the girls that want to study abroad are “different” in that they are interested in American culture. I’ve known Taiwanese girls that were stricktly looking for Asian men but the vast majority of Taiwanese girls studying in the U.S. have the fantasy of hoping to meet or date an American but many times are too shy. I walked up to my girlfriend and introduced myself in buchered Chinese (I only new a few words). Oh, forgot to mention that was 12 years ago. Been married for 10….and she is still hot! She soo crazy, make me luv her long time!!
It’s nice to read something that is on the mark for a change. Having said that, the article still slips up by saying “Taiwanese girls are beautiful”. I’ve been residing in Taiwan for 7 years and could count the beautiful women I’ve seen in this country on 2 hands. Perhaps from a distance the women seem attractive, but get up close and personal and you encounter the bad skin, dragon’s breath, falsies, and drab attire syndrome.(Any fashion sense that these girls do display is borrowed from the Japanese.) In other words, any beauty that is witnessed here is purely cosmetic. True BEAUTY is something that originates from within and radiates outwards, enveloping the exterior with a glowing presence that is truly unique. Unfortunately, this kind of beauty is scarce in Taiwan, where a woman’s inner life finds its ultimate realisation in a superficial smile or artificial pose that she strikes at a trendy club like Carneigies on a Saturday night.
Well, two hands in 7 years? I didn’t know inmates were allowed to surf the Internet while in prison. Maybe your idea of beauty is not geographically anywhere near Taiwan, but of course, you are also a different kind of man, who is not thinking of girls and sex 90% of the time.
As for the article, I’ve seen the myth reinforced with reality too many times to count. So I guess we just perceive the same phenomenon differently or it’s absolutely possible to have completely opposite experiences here.
Hi, I just started dating a Taiwanese-American girl. She became a citizen over the summer. I was wondering what are some of the do’s and don’ts of dating in Taiwan?
very amusing post
They are probably curious about Westerners like most Chinese and vice versa. Everyone likes a change from time to time especially when dating.
Man, I have been studying chinese for four years, been to Taiwan three times, and I have never once seen a women come up to me. I’m very slender and athletic and I can hold a damn good chinese conversation. The truth is in his article. Taiwanese women only want western men if they think their lives in taiwan are not worth crap. The majority of the Taiwanese women you see in the bars and the Cougars in America. You don’t want these girls, they want you and your money and will break your heart, trust me! If you really are dead set on getting Taiwanese girl; learn chinese, learn the culture and don’t go to hot clubs. If you don’t do these things, the girls you meet will prolly give you a good STD or two.
the guy who wrote this post is a mangina! he can have all the fat `beautiful` western hags. i`ll be out having fun with the sexy local chickies.
This is by far the most popular post on this blog, and it’s been really interesting to watch the different responses mount up over time…
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Wow Daniel, You’re word is truth! I’ve been in Taiwan for almost four years, and I’ll endorse your statement that the dating scene is absolutely terrible here. I’ve learned that Westerners here are merely a source of entertainment for the curious rich. So, the only girls here that would be seen talking to a foreigner have been rejected from society for reasons beyond a foreigners understanding. Thus, a white man who is open to dating in Taiwan is unwittingly making himself the play toy of some very self-centered, greedy and heart-breaking girls. They’re bony and flat-chested, and not so great looking, but they can grab your heart quite easily. They truly have skills on that, if they are motivated to apply them, that is. After learning this the hard way, I found a Filipino to marry. If anyone reading this is planning on coming to Taiwan to find a girlfriend, you should have a heart of stone and a lot of money. You’ll have better luck in the Ukraine or the Philippines to find a girl worth keeping.
I just wrote a large paragraph about my ex Taiwanese wife. After I finished, I realized I was just venting my frustrations about her. So I killed it. Yes, she was everything you’d heard that Asian women are and can do to American men. She did it all and cheated on me on the way out. BUT I am now dating an amazing – truly ‘one-of-a-kind’ Taiwanese woman. She’s +10 years on me, but she looks incredible ~30s. She owns her own business. Treats me like I’m a god. And so, I treat her the same. Finally, a mutually beneficial relationship without the negative issues that follow so many couples. Just like U.S. (white) women…you have to find the right one that is compatible with you. Happy New Year!!!!!
Happy new year to you too, Shidoshi.
A well written article but a bit self lacerating and defeatist-which is of course the required, culturlaly mandated posture of the modern western male when talking about sex and ‘relationships’-Hillary Clinton would love you!; so I offer a thought on that -maybe with respect consider the possibility that your negativity becomes circular and stops you from actually meeting the right girls, thereby reinforcing the negativity etc etc; and secondly in my humble experience girls from the Asia Pacific region are infinitely preferable to western females- those of us who live in the ‘first world’ have to endure contact with some of the sourest, most cynical women on the entire planet!
Hi Mark, I enjoyed reading your comment. My motivation for writing this article was to oppose what I perceived as a general myth about being a Western male in Taiwan – that dating here is paradise. The self-laceration was partly necessary because of the optimism of my fellow ex-pats.
Were I to write a similar article about foreign men dating local women here in Syria, my current home, it would have a completely different angle, mainly because the prevailing myth is that Syrian women don’t want to date / mess around with foreign men. Investigation has suggested that this is only partially true.
I would, however, feel more awkward writing that essay that the one I wrote about Taiwan, and so, perhaps that awkwardness shows the Hilary-esque nature of my views.
Mark,
If your theory is correct, then the negativity Dan may have had about “relationships” TOTALLY backfired for him…
I lived in Taiwan for ten years and I think Daniel has made some valid points but is off the track slightly. Firstly, these myths originate from the fact that there is certainly a lot of beautiful girls in Taiwan. Walk down Zhongxiao E road any day of the week at any time – the density of hotties is higher than anywhere in the world. Wiggles is either a mad perfectionist, trying to have us on or is just sensory deprived. Admittedly dental issue are a problem with girls over about 30, but this is just as big a problem with lower socio-economic groups in the west too. The comment about skin is so wrong it makes me think that the only tw girls he must have been with had dermatitis or something. My ex-gf from years ago is 40+ and still has better skin than western girls I know 15 years younger than here. So, there are many beautiful girls, and though Daniel is right in saying they do not often approach you independently, and especially not in a romantic way, all the same they make it pretty clear that it is alright to approach them – as some commentators up there said, they even do this with boyfriend around. Now – truth be said – with the latest batch of young Luxy teeny boppers, foreigners are not nearly as interesting as rich cool guys with porsches but that’s prob the way it has always been in taiwan. Here the periphery aspect mentioned by Daniel comes in, mostly true with a certain type of tw girl, but even these girls are keen on having a fling with a foreign guy without bf knowing. Bf represents stability, keeping folks happy .. etc … but these girls are highly sexual creatures and they share the same sense of exoticism that we do, so it’s on if you have the right moves. And Chinese language helps with this but is prob not essential. But don’t forget, there are many girls who see the constrictions of life in a largely loveless marriage in front of them with the 1st son – living with his mother – and think a foreigner might be different. Often they find it is different. Daniel made a very good point – usually a 28 yr old tw woman can be expected to have had 2-3 bfs. This is true – possibly a harmless one in high school, then the main one, made in a ritualised motorscooter jouney to a park by matching pairs of university students, alotted randomly. They play some strange childish games where they run around in circles and then the couple often end up stuck with each other … this relationship usually lasts for 5-6 years. If they are even a little bit compatible they will get engaged. Even if they are not this idea will be a pressure on them, especially him. He will vent his frustration with affairs ( and so will she if chance arises with someone who doesn’t count ie waiguoren because she is worried guy she has affair with will put as much pressure on her as original boyfreind) … eventually they will break up – usually her who breaks it off. She is 25-28 by now and needs to find someone before magical age of 30. To a girl who has gone through this shit – foreigners seem attractive. So what I’m trying to say is that the girls are cute and it is not difficult to find one that suits you here. There are many types and most are amenable to the waiguoren. And here is the reason why I think the myth has arisen: even those who would never consider going with a foreign guy will often still take the time to listen to you. It’s considered polite I guess. I don’t think this happens in the west much nowadays (but I could be wrong. Over here in Aus now I let the women make th pick-up lines) As for Daniel’s last point – agreed. Tw girls may not express themselves in the same way, but they still get their way often. They can be very manipulative, strategic and cunning. And lovely. All at the same time. Note: I have not even thought it worthwhile to mention bar/foreigner hunters and gld diggers, who as Daniel mentioned are a minority, and usually in fact fall into another category I mentioned above but just go about it in a different way.
Agreed, Agreed and maybe…
It seemed to me that the Taiwanese (Especially the girls) really lay down the red carpet for Weiguoren. One thing that is important to mention, is that there was much more preferential treatment down south in Tainan and Kaohsiung than in Taipei. A few friends of mine told me that they felt like a rock star there. I agree.
Personally, I found it extremely easy to meet girls in Taiwan. But much like any place in the world, you have to sift the trash from the treasures. If you want to sleep with the neighborhood nympho…by all means go ahead. Many girls had the impression that all white guys want one night stands, so that makes us like a motel, check in check out with no baggage. If you ask me, sounds like any college dorm across the western world.
It is not certainly not difficult to meet a wife/mother quality girl to marry in Taiwan. The wild card comes with her parental acceptance, but times are changing especially in bigger cities. Many more families are agreeable to foreigners, that is if you are a caring, honest guy and not a bar-crawler. Oh yea, it helps if you can pay a monthly dowry as well! Rent a Bride!
Some girls told me about frustration dealing with local customs/BF/family issues. In my case, I met more “psycho BFs” of the girls I knew, who would call or text them 30+ a day in order to “keep control”. On the BF side, they want to stay out of relationships for similar reasons. If a couple get serious and start having sex, that usually means that he is required to think about marriage long and hard. Which in turn means, bring the girl into the family, pay the parents of the bride a $30K or so dowry (buy them a car, down payment on a condo, or a good old fashioned Red Envelope) And get a secure office job. Which option would you choose… hm how about stay at moms house and play video games until your 30. Because that pretty much describes many of the Taiwanese guys I knew.
All of that being said, I got struck with Asian fever, married a beautiful Taiwanese girl and just had gorgeous little baby. I agree with Mark, I prefer Asian girls over western ones. They are sweeter, Age better, loyal, treat you like a king and the cultural nuances always keep things interesting.
One last thing. Just because you are treated like a king in Taiwan: Please maintain some class, show respect to the locals & treat the ladies well. It is too often not the case when young, drunk Weiguoren get starstruck.
im about to fuck one of them bitches
@ anon
Your manliness just oozes forth through your tight, graphic prose.
Very interesting and true posts. I’ve had 3 long-term relationships with Taiwan girls so far – one going as far as 7 years. Taiwan, like the average country, has girls who know how to attract westerners, but when things get serious, up close, or adventurous, you have to really think out of the box to make it worthwile – especially those who plan for a family… in fact in certain cases it may even be even more troublesome than most countries… but all in all, it’s not that bad. The biggest help though, is experience. Once you’ve been here for 17 years or so, you begin to find out what it’s all about: relationship limits for playing, itellectual open-minded non-culture effected minds for marriage, communication from their prospective is ONLY possible solution for any type of communication… because it’s all about trickery… or for my parents in her mind… seldom do you randomly run accros a effortless success with girls in Taiwan regardless your goal.
I just wanted to dispel another myth that I noticed in this discussion. Asian women are just like western women. Culturally, there are some differences, but they are very much the same. It comes down to preference. Men who like submissive women will seek them out. Similarly, men who want strong women will seek them out. Therefore, the men who desire Asian women will believe that Asian women are better.
Dating an Asian or Taiwanese girl is no different than dating any other girl. Culturally, there are differences, but that comes with any relationship. So, for you men who think that these girls are easier to pickup, then put yourself in the girl’s shoe. Do you think she is picking you up because she thinks you are easy to pickup? That could be what is happening. These girls might have “western” fever or something of the sort. Just like western men having “yellow” or “jungle” fever. The whole aspect of the exotic is something we all entertain. It is part of our life. We think about it, try it and sometimes we stay with it. I could almost call it a fetish.
I wish I could look at this from a white male point of view, but I look at it from just a male point of view. I have dated my share of Taiwanese girls, in addition to the German, French, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, American, Indian and Mexican. What can I say, I move around from country to country a lot. Regardless of the location, the difficulty is the culture. There will be the tough ones and the easy ones. It all takes work.
As for Dan’s comments about the girls, it is pretty much on the money. Personally, I think the ratio of hot girls to not hot girls in Taiwan is about the same as anywhere else in the world. I think it comes down to the perspective of the viewer. I have seen and met so many white men who think they have the hottest Asian girlfriend that I think white men cannot tell the difference between pretty and ugly Asian women. I almost think that the “yellow” fever blinds them. I can say likewise for the Asian guy with the western girl because some of those girls are just plain Janes. To be honest, we are not always good with recognizing beauty when the race is not that of our own.
These are great comments and opinions. I am 33 and playing baseball down here in the Taiwan league. It is always interesting to here the different perspectives of people from all over the world. What ever happened to chemistry and girl likes guy and guy likes girl. If you are attracted to someone nothing will stop you.
Have been dating a Taiwanese woman for nearly 2 years. Iv never been to her hometown ‘Teipei’ but will be going soon and cant wait! I dunno about all the negativcity surrounding Taiwanese peeps but all I kno is my g/f is the weirdest most intriguing and funnist person iv met. And one shout out for her….TAIWAN DOES NOT BELONG TO CHINA!!!! (Sorry about the politics!) lol
is this a good thing
i been talking to a girl from Tiawan for 39 weeks
I’m planning to viset her at end of year i think she the one
is there any way i can get her to live in Austraila?
help plz
if she is an only child, probably not as she will need to care for her parents. She could get a visa? Ah, this was posted in 2008, are you even together now?
Jono, dude, give more details…
While Taiwanese women are not as staid as Koreans, they are certainly more reserved than Filipinas or Koreans.
I’ve been here a while and have given up dating the Taiwanese. I find that because I don’t demand that Taiwanese women do everything the western way (I’m not even asking them for sex), they then expect me to do everything the Taiwanese way. I’m looking for a middle ground on mutual cultural respect and not finding any.
Hi, Daniel,
Really enjoyed reading your article about Taiwanese. Quite amusing, and comments as well. Compared with HK, Singapore and many other places in Asia, Taiwan itself doesnt seem to be attractive to westerners, male or female. (It has taken my husband months to get a proper job in IT in Taiwan and there are still no fruitful results yet, unfortunately.) Of course, you can take political factors into account; but hey, that seems to be too serious, tho it does matter (i really hope the new president would take us into another defferent level as he claims.)
I grow up, study (English dept) and work in Taipei for almost the past 30 years; as far as I am concerned, many, if not most, white men in Taiwan are really horny, esp those in the pubs, bars, clubs, English-teaching classes. That’s a tragedy. I hope you dont mind my saying so. But, no one to be blamed really cos it really takes two to tango – who says those girls in the pubs are serious enough).
If you really want to find a girl with ‘middle ground on mutual cultural respect’, according to my experience, there are many, especially these days. Friends of mine are married to Canadian, English, French and American. When you are horny, you have no way to hide it and you will soon be recognised and contempted I would say. I supposed this also kinda explains why hot and greedy girls easily make white guys heartbroken if he is also looking for such girls.
PS.
Some guy above suggested Zhongxiao E. Road to look for hotties, me and my husband say Zhongshan N. Road!! YOU WILL REGRET IF YOU DONT GO THERE to look for real hotties. Be warned: make yourself a bit posh, not all casual guys can appeal to beautiful girls!
Really looking forward to your writing published(? I hope so and I would be the first one to grab one, or at least one of the firsts)!
Thanks Betty.
chatted with a Taiwanese chick online for a few years. Went there to meet her, WOW, she was hot.
Then she came to london.
She has her hooks in me, and the M word has been mentioned.
She is serious and me too.
We are both over 35 know what we want and mature.
So different folks different strokes
….Well the blog was certainly a good read, inspiring both frequent smiles and equally frequent frowns. As a guy who spends quite some time in TW, and will eventually live there with my TW gf, I can’t help but feel the way we are generally received or treated, be it superficial or genuine, is a credit to TW and its people, male and female.( and I have been duped in business here too, but I won’t tar them all with the same brush) Sure I have encountered the occasional western asshole mistreating his TW gf, and, on one occasion, personally intercepted and dealt with an abusive English male exhibiting appalling behavior in a bar with his TW gf. In 25 years of travel (I am a “non American”) I can only recall ever having received equally great service, social reception and hospitality, when I was in country USA. To the credit of TW, and I don’t care if it’s real or not, they have respect. I know many will disagree, but hey, get over it, take a look around, in any culture there is bitching and backstabbing. If being called a big nose or any other equally mild generalization make you uncomfortable, go home to your mother and get your laundry done. TW girls are sophisticated and complex. They’re a hell of a lot of fun and I wouldn’t trade my gf for the world. I reject the claim subservience being their appeal to foreigners. If any guy can keep his relationship alive with a girl from any culture, it’s more likely down to his ability to keep her happy, and not be an asshole. Some of the things I do and really enjoy, like cooking, hold appeal and intrigue to TW people. A slob is a slob in any language. I’ve heard a number of TW girls complain about they way TW guys treat them. Perhaps this is one reason being foreign initially attracts them to meet guys like us? Who really knows?
PS re: anon post, “Dui ni ge da tou!” your comment was rather amusing …..
Agreed with the above two posters.
Oh and lol at the all comments about “girls back home.”. I’m curious to know how many of you actually know how to deal with women in general and didn’t just come here to get girls because its “easier”.
Why struggle with a language and culture problem in taiwan, when you can living in Singapore… get a few dates from myspace, and be nailing some asisn chick (probably not as hot as a taiwanese, but ok) in less than 3 weeks.
Good luck getting out the relationship though.. in 1.5 years, Ive gotten 2 serious relationships, the girls just didnt want to let me go and tried to destroy me when I dumped them… being stuck with them for long (around 7 months each) really limited my ability to play. But the time is was single between relationships was around 2 weeks (which shows how east it is to hook up again)
Anybody a bit firmer and playboyish could do way better than me and nail even hotter girls… I settled for average chicks cause i knew i could get them… just wish i didnt get stuck with them for so long….when i try to dump them they make it sound like im the worst person on earth… so i stayed with them out of guilt until i just coulndt take it.
For easy lays – SIngapore!… why stuggle in taiwan ??? U dont even need to learn chinese cause these chicks will be correcting your own english!
hey Daniel,
your article was definately worth reading and a lot of people have shared interesting experiences. Among the comments I’d identify myself with Nate’s opinion the most. I stayed in Taiwan for a year when I was 20, so I cannot say much on the marriage-issue (except that a Taiwanese girl you are dating doesn’t want to take you home or introduce you to her parents because it means you are a worthy marriage candidate)
Anyway, I also often had the impression that many girls find foreigners an exotic fruit or something they can boast about in front of their friends. That makes you wonder if she is really interested in you as a person or just in the skin-colour. Getting to know girls is not such a big deal … unlike Japan it is much easier to make eye-contact and look for signs. Moreover, girls are more aggressive than in Japan (once I had a High School student buy me a gift, only because I smiled at her 2 times at the same book-store).
If your Chinese sucks, make sure it becomes better, because that increases your chances on the long run (also it’s quite pathetic if you have couples who can’t say more than 2 words to each other). If you are not so experienced yet, try getting the girls MSN number … chatting in English is much easier for most of them than speaking and hence you might find out what you are on.
If you are going to clubs to look for your woman, then you usually get what you deserve; that is a foreigner hunting “puppy”. If that is what you want, go ahead. Make sure you use protection though…
Usually women, who have studied abroad, are also one of their kind. They have quite a diversified view on foreigners and understand cultural issues the best. Actually, I know some who are only interested in foreigners, because they have come to “not understand Taiwanese men” any longer. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean they are an easy catch, especially for those who are only looking for a “quick girl”.
Sometimes I have the impression that the myth is even self-supporting in the sense that you have guys flirting with women they’d never have the guts to speak to in their own country. Failure is much less depressing for many, because there are so many other potential targets. Moreover as someone mentioned above, usually women still engage in a conversation to be polite (especially in Japan).
Thanks a lot for the interesting Post
I don’t know what to think of TW women. My husband has been traveling there for 17 years for work. He is from HK and I am american. I just found out that he was having an affair with a TW girl, for the last 9 months. He said what attracted him to her is the excitment, it was new, she is very beautiful, interesting and knows what she wants in life. He met her in a club in Taipei. From what I know he wanted to impress her, bought her expensive gifts, took her to nice dinners, shows and of course to his hotel room. It was her that had the condom and said they could have sex, he said no he didn’t have protection. But I guess what else can you do when faced with a beautiful girl, who’s prepared and wants to have sex with you, you surrender. She now knows that he is married with 2
kids and she still continues to contact him. So next month I will get to see what all the fuss is about, it will be my first trip to TW, with my husband. I’m looking forward to being in a different culture and just to meet and be around the people from there.
@Monique
I can’t say I detect much anger in your post seeing how your husband is chasing Taiwanese tail behind your back; don’t kill the chick when you get there.
I plan on studying/living in Taiwan to finish up grad school and then by then determine if I’d like to live and work there. I am discouraged by the non-ESL job prospects though.
I have met my share of very attractive Taiwanese women here in the states myself. I also agree with many of the other posters in that women are just that–women. Cultural differences aside, have a good foundation because in ‘x’ years you’ll be either still in love or sick of her sh#@. There was a 9/10 Taiwanese girl I knew (and still know on some level) who seemed to be a 路卡努 (green card girl). She flirted with anything male and would rarely hold eye-contact as she was always scoping other men. She was still very sweet and remarkably funny. Brain before balls gents. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, don’t blow your crackers.
Glad i’ve read this San Francisco here I go…
i thought i was the only guy here having so much trouble with my taiwanese girlfriend, i guess the culture really is too different…
hehe good article, but just want to give back some credit to the myth here
You’re article is about “dating’, which im not sure what you defined by this.It depends people. I m 24yo french in Taiwan for 1 year and ill give my point of view more on picking up, a point you left out.
of course its totally wrong to think that as a westerner you will be hunted down by taiwanese girls, but if you have the fiber to go hunt them you can easily have a 100% stat on briging back hot girls ( Really HOT sometimes), which seldom happen back home (hehe more like a 10%…).
Taiwanese girls are beautiful, no doubt (course not all of them but many are of model class), unless you are into curves or redhead of course…
Speaking the language is controversious point. depends on what you looking for. The attention you get will be different if you are fluent or not. I actually lower my level on purpose sometimes, it can be an easy ice breaker (you can talk to a girl for hours wihout saying anything but just amusing on the language difficulties). also communication barrier is the key of a no complication pick up. If you’re more into going to see art exhibition with your girls or have a nice pick nick afternoon in the park, then i indeed higtly suggest you have a good language.
On your last point i can’t agree more. A taiwanese girl is not to get married with and hardly to date…. Just enjoy your time in TW.. you’ll have plenty of time to get married when you get back home.
I’m a Taiwanese American girl living out here in Taipei. While the men on here share some important dating points for one another, that’s cute… but I percieve the majority of the comments as so incredibly desperate. Although Taiwanese girls are “beautiful” or “different” or can “love you long time”, they are also woman, but some of the men on here have insisted on classifying an entire country of women as “creatures” complete with hotties and the “ugly ones with black gums and yellow teach”. Imagine your mother or sister recieving feedback like that and getting picked out as only a piece of ass. Indeed there are cultural differences that are significant to note, but the appearance of ignorance and primal male hunger for a shot at some local meat abroad and their views of the local women as no more than just sexual beings to pick out like items at the supermarket, is desperate and mirrors the inability of some foreiners in Taiwan to find a partner in their hometown. Honestly, the majority of male foreiners really come to Taiwan to learn the language right? or is it primarily to fulfill their desires to seek out the “submissive Asian girl” or wait for the unsuspecting “creature” to pick you up instead, since all the females back home have already shacked up with a better version of you?
Asians in the East are actually more interested in Asian-Americans, not white-Americans. If you can’t respect the women or won’t put any time into understanding the culture, then you should probably stop looking to womanize them because you’ll get no guarantees. Honestly, men who go all the way to Taiwan JUST for the purpose of getting laid have nothing better to do with their lives and allowed themselves to be suckered into this “game.” Some women are genuine and will love you for you but if you’re looking for the players of the game, they will play you as their pawn.
dont ask me how, but i stumbled upon this little blog post and found it quite amusing to read….
being a canadian taiwanese dude (early 20s), i’ve obviously dated my fair share of women in my life time…spanish, italian, canadian, korean, chinese…. and im not sexist by any means, but women are all the same i have to say.
before you ladies start freaking out at me for saying such thing, what i meant by “all the same” is that females will always be females, no matter what race, ethnicity, background, culture they come from/grew up in.
culture differences are something that i dont think you “foreigners” in taiwan understand. It is not something you can comprehend simply by residing there for 2-3 years. given that ladies are all the same (again meaning women are women regardless of race..etc), the cultures they grow up in do influence their habitual thought processes.
think about it, westerners are all about the individualistic expression of self (hence the individualism culture) and asian cultures are more of the collective agreement of self-identity….on such a broad aspect of culture it is already on the opposite side of the spectrum, think how complicated “marriage” between different cultures must be.
granted, i’ve seen many successful couples with different backgrounds, but it takes brutal honesty and open minds for them to work out. like i said before, i’ve been in very serious relationships with ladies outside of my race, and its really about the difference in logic.
now onto a little bit of offensive side…..alot of comments about taiwanese girls here show next to zero class. trust me, i’ve seen some REAL busted “white” girls (if i had to categorize girls). talk about bad skin, yellow teeth and bad breath….argh believe me lets just say every race has beauties and fuglies…but this is only if you seek out women solely on their appearances. i imagine most of ya’ll (thought it would strike a chord haha) on this blog are respectable gentlemen with class, integrity, and reflects only the best of your family values, so try acting on it once in a while, its not too bad…u just might like the change to the upper class.
anyways i should probably end this vent….basically im writing this to share a few thoughts from the perspective of a taiwanese male (although raised in canada). oh and last thing……..every culture have those who’s 30 and live in mama’s basement and play videogames all day…..and if u white folks cant agree…..then…….we’re not really talking about cultures anymore, we’re just talking about education levels….oh and sorry to be political here but…..george bush? pffft come on….epidemy of not only the anglo-saxons, but the disgrace of all of human kind…..and it just so happens that he is white.
ps-sorry for the messy punctuations, its late here so not really minding the syntax either.
I didn’t read everyone’s comments as there are so many! So my comment isn’t really in reply to anything but my own thoughts.
Anyways, I’m a Taiwanese girl who grew up in the States and Taiwan so I’m largely influenced by both Western and Eastern cultures. Needless to say, there are both good and bad in both cultures.
What I really do NOT like about SOME Taiwanese girls here in Taiwan is that they act like a cheap piece of meat in front of caucasian guys. I said SOME. They think that just because he is white he is a really good catch and literally throw themselves at them. I think if you don’t respect yourself first, no one’s going to respect you. And I would hate it if other people thought Taiwanese girls are “easy” or “psycho” based on some ppl’s behaviour.
Just to add, there are beautiful and ugly ppl from ALL cultures/countries/ethnicity/race…just like there are good and bad ppl from anywhere. So we all have to learn to not stereotype or generalize too much!
And yes, we do each have our own preferences with regards to looks, so there is nothing wrong with liking one particular look over others.
I’ve lived back and forth between the states and Taiwan too and this blog is incredibly interesting to me. I would like to second Robin’s opinion that sometimes we look down on girls who stick to foreigners just because they are foreigners. Even though I love talking to people who have personal opinions and there is a higher chance that would be true if the person has had western education, I still think twice about chatting up a foreign male both because I hate what other Taiwanese might think of me, and because I hate thinking maybe the guy has this myth in his mind that Taiwanese girls just throw themselves at them.
I believe something that would set western men apart as a catch is not the fact that they are western men per se, but that there is perhaps a standard of courtesy among western men – carrying any female’s bags, holding doors, calling a taxi, arranging stuff for the whole group etc. That women anywhere value as responsible good qualities, a growing up education that men in Taiwan rarely get. This depends on the guy, of course. Put your best foot forward, and teach it to your sons. It’ll get you selection anywhere.
What an interesting blog….
(pardon my English, It’s not my native tong)
I’ve been to Taiwan for a short time here’s what I found out:
1- Taiwanese girls are really beautiful. I don’t understand the posts about black gums and bad skin. Either I have a built in filter, or I’m lucky, for I’ve only saw beautiful girls there. Chinese women are really nice looking. Of course there are also the not-so-good looking ones, but in general, the ratio good looking/general population is better than in the West (specially the US, which is the land of the obese)
2- The people in Taipei are the best. Very nice and helpful. Too bad the English-speaking ones are a rarity and almost no one can read maps (even those written in Chinese).
3- Contrary to western countries, It is my firm belief that Taiwanese women are really the true worthy people there. They have a determined look in their eyes, look sharp, known what they want and are conscious of they worth. On the contrary, men look sloth, chubby, ill, weak-minded and generally worthless. I don’t think that guys looking for some easy tails (or simply tails) will have much luck. Educated Chinese women really known they worth and won’t go for small talk and will not settle with some average men. Of course there will always be easy girls (as in any country), but I wouldn’t recommend those, not even with protection. I wouldn’t feel comfortable sharing something with half of Asia – or any other continent/country)
4. I’ve had some eye contacts. of course: I was the odd one out. The different one. But I’m sure if I was to approach them on a look-basis, they would simple walk away. I certainly do the same when I see some foreign girl in my country: I take notice, I give the look, but that doesn’t mean that I want something more.
That said, I have to say this: Horny man looking for easy Asian chick, you will probably have more luck at your own country. If you find somenone really forthcoming, beware: it may be the case that the girl wants some sort of ticket out of there to a better life (or some cash).
Best luck. I would return there tomorrow if I could. Nice people really
Honestly, the majority of male foreiners really come to Taiwan to learn the language right? or is it primarily to fulfill their desires to seek out the “submissive Asian girl”
Actually I’d say 90% of white males in Asia are just looking for just that. They take advantage of the hospitality that they are shown.
Asians in the East are actually more interested in Asian-Americans, not white-Americans.
This is true as far as I’ve seen. The only reason why some men here call all Taiwanese women ugly is because for the most part, only ugly women and low class women are desperate enough to go after what is an easy lay (white men). Those that say all “Asian women” are beautiful just have bad taste.
As far as my experience goes (Asian American), Taiwanese people in general (men and women) are very nice to me. The truly good looking, intelligent and classy Taiwanese don’t really seem to be interested in foreign males as they are notorious for the behavior mentioned in this thread.
I have to say I have been in a relationship with an older and younger Taiwanese girl before but not at the same time. #1) You do have to be very open minded while in a relationship with any Taiwanese girl. #2) I do find Taiwanese girls like to lie and have high expectations for men. #3) It is easy to fall in love here since SO MANY girls are beautiful but figuring out what THEY want is very important.
I was in Taipei for 3 months, hanging out with English teachers, and the did observe exactly that stated above. There really was a limited interface between the Taiwanese and American/Canadian/British/ South African and Australians living there. Yeah, some of them have wives…but they won’t be going back home with their cute wives anytime soon. Most women there were polite enough, but also politely disinterested….we will always be..foreigners.
Great site!
I will be heading to Taiwan (Kaohsiung) in less than a month to see my TW gf there. We meet in Australia and had been dating for 6 months. She told me the reason why she came to Australia was to meet a white guy (she doesn’t like Asian men) and that the white guys in her country are mostly ‘losers’ who cant survive in their own country, hence why she had to travel abroad to find someone. Anyways im concerned because she still hasn’t told her parents I even exist yet. I read someones post earlier and this might be suggested im not a worthy candidate yet for marriage? Anyways I would like to think we are in a serious relationship but I am also being wary for the time being at least until we know each other better.
Wow, I can’t believe myself just read all these long threads, guess I really want to know what foreigners in Taiwan think about Taiwanese girls. BTW, I found this article through a Taiwanese guy’s blog: http://www.wretch.cc/blog/w876/11690057
He translated out this article in Chinese.
As a Taiwanese girl, I hate to admit that there are some girls in Taiwan have “white” fever and think dating a foreigner is so exotic. Those girls do have the fantasy of dating tall handsome white guys and have beautiful hybrid babies. However, those girls don’t represent all girls in Taiwan. And now a day, more TW people realize not all white guys are decent, so more women feel skeptical about dating foreigners. At the same time, bad asses sometimes do attract girls, but that happen worldwide.
It is true that most local Taiwanese don’t have foreign friends. This is probably because they are shy to speak English. A lot of people in Asia feel that they have to be really fluent in English in order to make conversation, whereas westerners are less intimated to do so. But at the same time, if you are in a foreign country, why would you expect the local people speaking your language? Yes, Chinese is a hard language, but please at least respect other’s culture and learn some Chinese 101. I’m not saying all foreigners in Taiwan are scum. There are some foreigners working hard in Taiwan and actively learning the culture.
In terms of relationship, one thing about TW girls (and pretty much Asian-wide) is that they are in general, move slower paste than the westerners. The also tend to get pretty serious, so if your TW girlfriend talk about marriage, of course she is serious! (Otherwise why she brings it up?). Again, we are not talking about the kind only wants one night stand, or sell themselves short. So if you searches for an “easy pick”, yet still decent girl, there aren’t any.
Dating in Taiwan, what are the myths, and what is the truth, the subject of this thread.. all very interesting… There are very beautiful girls, and overall, as a percentage of the total number of women in the society, the level of attractiveness of the women is higher in the East than in the West. No matter which society, no matter which country, those men who end up having access to the most beautiful of women anywhere are the ones who have the most power. That can be defined in a number of ways and is something to think about. One point to keep in mind though is that the quality of the interaction a man has with his object of desire is totally dependent upon the quality of his power. Certainly, a stunningly beautiful girl who is totally smitten in love with a male and makes love with him born out of her own desire, in contrast to a violent raping from that same man, indicates the two ends of the power spectrum.
I met a Taiwanese girl in Japan, and we really hit it off. Unfortunately she was arrested by the Japanese police and deported because-this was so petty-she had a part time job in a bar when she was on a student visa. I visited her a couple of times but then it peetered out due to the long distance thing.
I tell you this just because its a bit different from either 1.guy perceived as a “loser” in Taiwan, and 2. the posting above about the girl going all the way to Aus to get a white guy.
Couple of other observations though; Taiwanese girls I have known tend to borrow money and not pay it back, or expect you to pay for everything (air ticket, lawyer!), and can be a bit cold. Not wildcats in bed at all, the lady I mentioned above was sometimes good, sometimes not into it at all due to being tired or not in the mood, though other times she said I was the best she d ever had, etc etc
Is it worth it?
I am Canadian. 25. Genuine.
I came to Taiwan with a surfboard, a guitar, and assurrance that I could make easy money teaching English. I left my family, friends, job, and dream girlfriend (straight out of the Czech Republic) back in West Canada. Women did not concern my decision to come to Taiwan.
Apon arrival; Taiwanese girls are awesome. FACT. NO QUESTION.
**I don’t fully agree with any of the above posts. BUT, these posts are necessary because I have noticed a few white-happy dudes prancing around**
If you bar-hop the streets of Taiwan thinking you are a white-wrapped gift to China, you will probably meet a lot of dumb Taiwanese girls. Because you yourself, would be dumb to do such a thing.
The party culture here is great, very playful, and happy to include foreigners… Unless of course, you give off any ill impressions. In which case you will be shunned, much the same as any other place on the planet.
Taiwan is crowded with happy people. Don’t taint the population. If you suck, work in Thailand.
And ya the girls here look great and are cats in bed.
“Taiwanese girls I have known tend to borrow money and not pay it back, or expect you to pay for everything (air ticket, lawyer!), and can be a bit cold.”
Sounds like a gold digging whore. Thank god for you white losers or we’d never get them out of our gene pool!
Hi, I’m a Taiwanese girl. Someone gave this article to me.
I agree with some parts of what you said. Lots of Taiwanese girls are seeking for foreigners to be their boyfriends. I don’t know why foreigners are so attractive, especially “white people”. Actually, most foreigners come to Taiwan just searching for girls to sleep with, as it happens that girls want to have white guys as boyfriends. “Learning Chinese” or “Teaching English” is just an excuse for those foreigners to come to Taiwan finding girls to accompany them. Taiwanese girls are so blind worship of foreigners that makes foreigners have chances to get the targets. However, there are still many girls who do not have such blind worships, so you cannot judge every girl is like that by “some” cases.
Dear my new friend sophia !good afternoon.Some time ago I think I need a girl friend to Taiwan but when i read your comment on this wall i really disappointed.I am from Bangladesh this country is one of the poor country of the world but we have status and humanity. you complain most of white people come taiwan to “learning languge “or “Teaching English”. They really come to gets their targets . Do you belive me I want to really your frined please accept me as soon as possiable .If you couldn’t accept me i really socked.
I honestly feel like i’ve learnt more about Americans than about Taiwanese women in this post. You chaps are some smart cookies.
A.Brit
Very nice post,i like the writer’s thought on the topic. I am from India and studying in Taiwan and have a gf here. She is a beautiful and wonderful human being and we are very happy together. My experience as a foreigner about Taiwanese ( not just girls) is the they are very friendly and honest people. by the way – Wish u all merry Christmas and a prosperous New year ahead
Just at it.Compendium of Girls with Bad teeth,exploitative tendecies,poor fashion and irregular behaviours.Without comming to Taiwan,how else would i have known?
Come across this site since I’m dating a Taiwanese woman for almost half a year.
I think it is not really accurate to generalize Taiwanese (or even asian) women, for example I met my girlfriend in Canada and I am born in Hong Kong. So it is not like all Taiwanese women are looking for non-asian boyfriend.
And I known quite a lot of Asian women, I know one who is born in Canada who’d want to date white guys, and yet I know another who is from Japan who doesn’t like white guys. So it is all up to the individual women’s preference. Even if stereotypical makes you understand the world better, it is not necessarily accurate.
Why are we westerners so attractive in Taiwan? It’s very simple. Because our economies are richer than them and our western cultures are superior to their one, so they feel ashamed of themselves (or their culture?). That’s why taiwanese girls (and asian girls in general) worship us the westerners. It’s the truth, and we must admit it.
Fuck off！！！ I can’t believe that you say so. See, that’s why there are so many Taiwanese girls are don’t like western people. Too proud of themselves and look down on others. We do love our culture, we don’t feel ashamed on it. Whole western people should feel ashamed of themselves because of YOU. You are a pathetic, helpless, loser person. Ha~~or maybe you are the one who searching for Asian girls to sleep with.
We don’t give a shit on your god damn money. To be rich to spend your money on whores? That’s so pathetic. Superior culture???? Yeah, I know that. Sex！！！ You can’t live without sex. “Sex” is the most superior culture in your country. Men are asshole, especially from Western countries.
Hi Sophia. Please… first of all most of the westerners on this tread are American… so please do not generalise American people with all western people… I am from Europe and english is not my mother tongue. I don’t know about all those guys in here but I know that in my country, in Europe, we have very good moral values. We think sleeping with many women is bad and only BAD people here do it ! So please do not generalise. A normal person looks for a woman (only one).
Let me explain why Taiwanese women start to have a negative image about westerners… First of all people in Taiwan (for the majority) only know American western culture. They see American Hollywood movies full of American low values… Let me tell you a quotation from Albert Einstein : “U.S.A is a country that directly passed from a barbarian state to decadence, without having ever known civilisation”. In Europe we have a long cultural heritage full of moral values that are respected worldwide… so when you say “You can’t live without sex. “Sex” is the most superior culture in your country. Men are asshole, especially from Western countries.” let me tell you it’s very hurting me because I do not associate myself with this kind of people that can also be Taiwanese man.
I am very interrested by Chinese culture and Chinese language. And I would love to marry a Chinese woman because I love her culture and I know I would be very happy to live and make a family with a woman that has a culture that attracts me so much.
I can of course understand that maybe after you read the comment of a person like Anthony you could loose your temper and you said things without thinking enough…
But let me tell you one very important thing without any form of hate. I would love to have a Taiwanese girlfriend. And I only need one ! A girl that I will not cheat !!! If it works I would love to marry with her and share my life with her. Why ? Because I love Chinese culture, I love Chinese language and I really like Taiwanese people.
So my conclusion for you would be that : please Sophia, do not generalise all western man to some stupid people from USA, the country of porn, of exageration, of individualism and of low culture and almost no history at all. Sorry for all the good Americans here I know of course that there are great people in USA (i do not generalise to all).
I wish you can understand there are people who are in true love with Chinese culture and who would love to have a Taiwanese wife or gf just because they love that person. And it’s good to love someone who can share something with you about a culture that you like right ?
Have a nice day and please do not be hateful to all westerners that’s stupid too. Come to Europe and see how people are. Thank you
I am ready to talk with you on msn to explain my thoughts…
I know what you said. I know it’s not whole western guys are look like just what I said. But in Taiwan, I’ve seen many guys are come here just want to get girls.
And, how are yo going to explain what Anthony said??? See！！ That person doesn’t respect Taiwanese girls, doesn’t respect my country. I just telling the truth, most western guys come here just to get girls, I’m sure that person(Anthony) does too.
I am not like that and if I have a girlfriend in Taiwan why not but I firstly come for language & culture. And my point would not be like going to Taiwan to find a girlfriend. If the occasion to have a good girlfriend is coming to me maybe i will. But having a girlfriend can also be here in my country. There are good and bad people everywhere and that’s why I say that.
I am not going to explain what Anthony said because there is nothing to explain. It’s wrong and completely stupid that’s all.
If I come to Taiwan it’s because I love and respect your country so please don’t say things like “Men are asshole, especially from Western countries” it’s hurting me because I am a western man and it’s an insult to all western man with good moral and good values. Bad man are everywhere. But because of people like you who say this kind of things Taiwanese people will have a bad image about people that are good… just because of generalisation and gossips. And not truth of course.
“”Sex” is the most superior culture in your country”
many Taiwanese men that i have met seem to have a wife and at least 1 girl friend, if not then they are forever paying for sex.
I have met more cheating people over here than i had ever met in any other country.
fact of point, if you are from taiwan or america and you are a woman, you will be impressed with Ferrari’s and money and you may possibly sleep with someone just because they have a nice car and cash.
You must understand that 外國人 is not only people from U.S.A but all Europe, many in Latin America, Russia, Australia, South Africa etc… and according to your experience I can understand that you saw people who want to teach english in Taiwan to have an easy life. Many of those people are people who can’t find job in their own country and english is their mother tongue so they go to Asia to teach it and get a good salary. My point is that you should try to differentiate good people from bad ones and not attribute it to a country or a race or wathever is outside Taiwan.
I hope you are not angry that I just gave you my point of view.
Have a nice day =) and 我愛臺灣 ! 臺灣加油 ! even 孔子 said that do not stay with bad people but try to attract to you good people =) now I think we need to 加油 and try our best to attract good people no matter where that person is from. 好不好 ?
Take care !!
I accept what you said. When I said “western people” I didn’t mean only Americans. It could be European countries or other countries as you mentioned. Anyway, it’s good that you love Taiwan, and wish you could find your true love in Taiwan.
Ok… But anyway it can be Taiwanese man too … Thanks for your wishes. Have a nice day =)
reading this comment was utterly disgusting. i’m an asian american, trying to show my girlfriend the taiwanese nightlife, and who do i hear having the worst comments about “easy taiwanese girls” in front of carnegie’s? a swedish dude. all of you white boys fake like you care, but all you want is easy tail. here’s a tip, come over to new york and learn how to play the game right, you posers. pick up on how to treat a woman right.
well im a english teacher in china (mainland) and my new PA/minder is from taiwan, her english is good-perfect and she can think out side the box unlike many chinese people, also has a great sense of humour and is very sharp with picking up what im thinking. she also gives allot and does not expect anything in return (although slates my written chinese as terrible and vocal chinese as “can you speak english)..
.. i love my chinese partner (who understands my chinese)but would love to see what Taiwan is like. and if all are like my minder then in my next life i know where im emigrating to..
Sounds like you met a fantastic person! I would love to meet her myself! We hope you can come to Taiwan too and experience our country!
Yes foreigner from western countries are somehow look up upon by most of the asians. But thats not the case always. If you want to have true relationship its not difficult and taiwan gals are honest and sincere in relationship. But if you want to have just one night stand and leave , you may hurt some one feeling.
You should check this website about taiwan dating
http://www.taiwanfriendfinder.com its very good site i recommended to all of you who want to date taiwan gal
somehow not the point at all…
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Alas, Daniel, you lived in Taipei too long. The foreign man/local woman scene is a bit different up there than elsewhere in Taiwan.
well alot white guys who live in taiwan
they only want to play with taiwan girls
i cant not said all of them ,but usually most of them are
i heard about the guy who came from canada ..
he said that how much he love the girl from taiwan
but he still have sex with other taiwan girls and try to meet alot girls (speacially from club, bar ..)
well what can we say ..all the people know girls from club are not …..but he love it
and other old man who come from US,he might be 40 or more ..but he always want to meet the teenger taiwan young girl…how sick of this guy..:S:S
the thing we know is most white guys in taiwan are ….maybe not all of them ..but most of them
I do agree that Westerners have to respect the taiwanese culture. But i do feel that they like the Taiwanese people and love the local culture! There are a lot of reasons why foreigners are very impressed by local women.
This is a funny post.
I just want to say, I’m a Taiwanese girl raised in the West. I went back recently for a year and I generally don’t like how a proportion “foreigners” behave in Taiwan. It’s the myth that causes them to think it’s okay to act without respect. Anthony being a case in point.
I had several encounters in public places where the “foreigner” thought it would really impress a Taiwanese girl if they spoke to them in Mandarin. Perhaps they were just being friendly…but I think it was an example of a kind of Western “arrogance” and hence each time I replied in English in a frosty manner. The sheepish looks were worth it!
Similarly I have met nice “foreigners” who were really cool and critical of the slimy “sexpats” who went to Taiwan for one reason one.
You have to understand that Taiwan and many countries with Han Chinese legacy has a strong streak of Sinocentrism in its culture. Remember China was an old civilisation before Rome even learned to walk. The GMD education ensures that Taiwanese learn plenty of Chinese history.
This means (translation for buffoons such as Anthony and co) that just as you look upon a “less developed” country such as Taiwan with your delusional superiority complex, you’re being looked back down upon yourself as an “ignorant barbarian” (not my words). The East Asian ideals of what constitutes progress are different from the Western. And anyway, Taiwan and many of the other East Asian countries have shown that they can play the liberal economic game just as well, if not far better than the West have.
Anyway, for any culture it’s about getting to know the place and respecting them. Taiwan can be a very mean place to “foreigners” but it can also be a paradise. Just treat the beautiful, complex, and utterly unique Taiwan and its people with respect…the sexpats…we know who you are and please, you’re embarrassing yourselves.
I am in main land china, so maybe its not like this over there, but i suspect it is.
So, i am here to teach, a good job, interesting, fun and educational.
however the arrogance of many chinese is beyond me. even some people on here…..
apparently being white makes me american (not every white person is american you know). people cant understand that maybe a french person would come to china, and not speak english.
many people say hello then walk of laughing with friends. or snigger at me.
school kidsstand in the road to stop buses so they can get on first. they dont mind pushing people out the way. I have seen a old man get pushed down into the road so the kids can get on the bus first.
going to the toilet in the middle of foot paths, roads or bus shelters, spitting every where even on buses, restaurants and any where they feel.
calling people over and shouting wag guo ren. pointing and coming up very close and shoving a camera in your face and taking pictures with out asking.
picking thing up out of your basket in a supermarket to have a look at what you are buying.
increased prices on everything from food – taxi fares as westerners have lots of money.(last month in a taxi i didnt notice he had not used the meter, after a normal 5rmb ride he stopped and asked for 40 rmb. i gave him 30 and got out, he ogt out and infront of kids that i teach, and repeat TA’MA’DE..)
中国direct translate = centre country.
as i am white and obviously american, many people feel the need to treat me very badly, yet they dont know me.
in this city there are only 2 foreigners, me and another, but i ave been around abit in china, and apart from shanghai pudong, everywhere seems to have the same mentality.
NOW I have met some really nice chinese people, people who ask questions in mandarin, people that give me a chance to show if i am a good person or a bad person.
china ma have a very long history, but your mentality is that of a young country, in another 30 years i think your mindset will have matured enough to handle the west, until that time, keep blaming all your problems on someone else.
Not too sure if the above post is worth replying but I’ll just say this for the benefit of anyone else who has their head hidden in the sand:
Western civilisation, albeit with all its amazing benefits, has gotten us to where we are today:
- absolute environmental catastrophe – anyone other than the mega rich (who can at least ensure some security for their children) intending to have kids are absolutely crazy.
- permanent war economy – arms trade being the largest single item of int. trade. (blame problems on someone else…!!! the arms trade is actively encouraged by western governments to prop up their military industrial complex and stagnating economies.)
Check back in 30 years. Good luck!
@ Amy
Before Western culture’s influence on China, childbirth was dangerous, infant mortality very high, the majority of the population was illiterate, many of the poor had to work extremely hard to feed themselves with no hope of upward mobility, toilets were outdoors and sex meant babies so young women could not have their own careers or their own lives. Rich men had multiple wives, girl’s feet were bound, there was no freedom of speech but it didn’t matter because that was useless in a feudalistic society based on subsistence agriculture for the vast majority of people.
Guess what, before Western hegemony every large civilized culture was a major war economy except they actually fought wars all the time, just with rocks and sticks instead of advanced technology. The peace of the last 60 years is directly related to American arms spending, you foolish little girl.
A clean environment is no good to a starving man. Polution in Western Europe used to be extremely high but has been very much cleaned up over the last 40 years. The same will happen elsewhere. We will develop technologies to balance our damaging impact on nature or else we will suffer the consequences. However, to expect peasants to continue to work 7 days a week, 12 hours per day, for short lives of 50 years so that the environment can be clean is the kind of self-absorbed nonsense that spoilt little girls, who can’t link cause and effect, comment about on internet blogs.
The computer you use, the software it runs on, the internet infrastructure , the mobile phone in your pocket and every other technology that saves labour and gives you the leisure to spend time on the internet was invented by Western civilisation in the last 50 years. The internet and mobile phones did not even exist 15 years ago. These technologies will in turn spawn other creations which increase the wellbeing of mankind (fitness apps running on smart phones teaching people how to exercise better and become healthier for example).
How much are you willing to give up to have a nice clean environment?
There will still be war because ditzy girls will demand that their men go out and get some money/become important/successful/high status if they want access to the magic honey pot. Human nature creates war. It exists in all cultures and won’t go away as long as men love pussy and women love stuff.
Blaming Western culture for human nature………it is to laugh.
Amy: foreigners who like to have sex with Taiwan girls are “slimy sexpats” who go to Taiwan for just one thing? Unless they are cool and critical of slimy sexpats, in other words, agree with you?
Either you are sexually frustrated and seriously need a good fucking or you are a manipulative bitch who subconsciously understands the threat caused to your power over men in Taiwan by easy access to pussy in Taiwan.
Alternatively, I have found that the sluttiest women project their self-disgust onto players. Sleeping with lots of men damages a girl in the eyes of very desirable males. Sluts know this but they can’t help fucking around a lot because they have no control over their own desires. This terrifies them and causes irrational hate of players in women who themselves are only attracted to players.
I once saw a bunch of bar girls get violent at the thought of foreign men disrespecting Taiwan girls by thinking that Taiwan girls were easy. These girls would spend the night trying to get married foreign businessmen drunk in their bar. Some of the girls were semi-pro hookers. They slept with these married old men for money ………but only if they liked the guy. In which case the money they got was a gift, not payment for sex. They were regular features of the foreigner pick up spots and when they didn’t have a boyfriend would fuck a different foreigner every weekend.
However, the thought of foreigners thinking that Taiwan girls are easy drove them into a blind rage.
You should look inside yourself and explore the real animus behind your irrational fear of grown ups having sex.
How about just go back to America and stop dating Taiwanese/asian girls. Or if you really want to stay in Taiwan/Asia, “LEARN chinese mandarin and stop being arrogant believing that your whiteness is a universal ticket to acceptance, quite the contrary!”
You are just pathetic!
I am looking girlfriend in taiwan.
Taiwanese holding their traditions a head of them,getting married all what a taiwanese girl needs but not with us,family ties are strong,a girl walk with a western guy considered to be a bitch,again cosmetics made their beauty,but after she awake from her sleep …you’ll regret it.
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I’ve read a few posts about this subject on various blogs, but something about what you’ve said seems to provide more insight to not only Taiwanese women, but it was interesting how you noted that foreigners often end up with little to do after work and fit into a couple of categories like bars, gym, and conquests. I’ve lived in a couple cities in Asia and can attest that this is true where ever you go. Shopping might be in there too as a sub category, but that usually doesn’t last long. So the bar usually wins. One thing I can share from my experiences is if you are serious about a girlfriend from another place, make a real effort to learn the language. The reason being, you’ll know a lot more about her and if she’s the one.
Hi, this was quite a useful read for me, thanks for posting. I am an English 28 year old man, engaged to a taiwanese girl here in Tainan City, Taiwan. We have been together for 18 months, met in Manchester UK whilst she was studying, we moved in together at my apartment after about 1 month. I felt so lucky and in love. We got engaged before she went back to Taiwan and we arranged for me to come over to see her (I am there now) for 3 weeks to meet her parents and their circle of friends to determine my suitability as a husband. We planned to live in Taiwan and I teach, or edit documents etc. Anyway to cut to the chase, I am asking her parents tonight when she finishes work if I can marry her. I brought all the necessary documentation to marry abroad. However, late last night my girl said I may need to pay £30, 000 as a betrothal payment to her parents. That was a bit of a surprise since my bank balance is at 3000NTS right now!! So, I have been given a chinese name, I have stated my willingness to adapt to Taiwanese culture and fight the good fight for my fiancee, I have respected the spiritual side of her parents beliefs etc and in doing so forsaken my own cultures traditions. This is all done in the name of love. However, I cannot pay £30,000 as I do not have it, but that was just a figure my fiancee estimated, I will find out exactly what I have to pay tonight when i speak to her parents about this. I would say that it is wrong to put a price on a persons head. My girl is worth more than money to me but I do not see why I should have to crucify myself financially to have the right to marriage. There is nothing spiritual about paying for a bride. If her family request a crazy amount of money tonight from me, I will make a stand and say how I also have a culture and given that I have sacrificed so much out of love, perhaps her parents can compromise and I offer a symbollic betrothal fee out of respect, but not something that will be tantamount to extortion. If my parents knew I had to pay to marry they would hardly be happy. I hope my fiancee and her parents do not think I am cheapening her by suggesting this (huge language barrier!!) I love my fiancee like crazy. In my heart I think if I unequivocally have to pay a lot, and she is willing to wait for me then I will go and live with my parents, give up my apartment and save like a motherf*cker until I have the money but please God I don’t want that to happen!!!! I will even give her parents an attachment to my future earnings if I can marry her, I wonder if that would be acceptable? Sorry to rant on, I am just stressed! I have also paid £1050 to do a CELTA teaching course and I am on the verge of handing my notice in at work to move to Taiwan….
I have to know how that story ends!!!!!
And why must people here criticise each others culture? Yes Taiwan is very different to England, people do stare at me in Tainan and take pictures, even in Kaohsiung but England is a lot more cosmopolitan and has a much more culturally diverse population. That does not mean England is any better. I find people in Taiwan are mostly friendly. Anywhere that can create a girl like my fiance must be pretty awesome! It seems that most people in taiwan run their own small business, work very hard and rest little to support their childrens future. In England we have lot’s of unemployable people living off the welfare state which is apparently their human right. So tell me in another 20 years what will this mean? England (and the west in general) cannot continue to support lazy citizens at the expense of taxpayers. I enjoy both cultures, England is great, there a lots of benefits working there (I get 30 days annual leave from work, pension, insurance, I only work 5 days per week and get 6 months sickness pay per year). In Taiwan you work 6 days per week usually, sometimes 7, little or no sick pay etc but that is just work. I feel safer walking the street of Tainan at night than I do in Manchester with all the teenage gangs with guns. It is easy to cast aspersions on other cultures and call it being patriotic, but in all honesty it is xenophobic and regressive and says a lot about the individual. Seeing how other people live is an honor for me and makes you see the shortfalls in your respective civilizations and of course the positive points too. It’s called broadening your mind!!
Bri-Bees wow. that is allot, i am getting married on October the 16th. From the very start i have said openly that some things in my culture i cannot/ will not change.
my better half’s parents (well mother to be more exact) has said i do not need to pay for her first daughter but i do need to buy a bed and put it in her house until i buy a house. (although i do need to give her brother 1,000 rmb to “hug” his sister. Its for him to agree to the wedding)
her family has said they will pay for the wedding, but that doesn’t sit to well on my shoulders so I have had some funding from my father and added some so that non of her family will be out of pocket.
no one in her family (or her) speak english and my vocabulary is only so so (im forever mixing up tones, and i doubt in 100 years i could master this language)
I am only 25, but my advice to you Bri-Bees (take it or leave it) is not to excommunicate your self entirely from your own culture. learning another culture is fun and frustrating, you can be the happiest person in the world and then quickly into the saddest person. maybe you can take something from a poem i wrote for my partner (yes yes i know it doesn’t rhyme but it was my earliest romantic Chinese writing and i still have it framed on the wall).
translated from chinese.
No where in the world is there
1 cat,
1 bird,
1 fish,
1 mountain,
1 tree.
there are 2 cats,
2 birds,
2 fish,
2 mountians,
2 trees.
I love you and want you to make my family 2 people.
we are 1 world apart and you make me very happy.
10,000 big hugs and kiss’s on this, your valentines day. by your mark lee.
now i could write a better poem but im not giving a poetry class, its more so you can see that you also need to keep a part of you, she fell in love with you and to change your self entirely for her would be a means to an end. yes, there is no doubt you need to be very patient and you will need to make allot of compromises, I also have no doubt you are very much in love with her and will care for her until the world ends but NEVER FORGET WHO YOU ARE. your hearts in the right place but a different approach may be a wise thing to consider.
keep us informed of whats happening.
Thanks.
Limake
李马克
well I spoke to my girlfriends parents tonight (a few days later than I anticipated). Well, actually it was my girlfriends mother. I got a sinking feeling almost as soon as the conversation started. I understand that as my girlfriend is the only child her parents had that they are super-protective and want to ensure that they do what is best for her. There were a lot of probing questions about finance, learning mandarin, my propensity to adapt to a different culture etc and I countered her mothers concerns with my positive answers about loving the culture, my determination to learn mandarin and to get a good job etc. I was then told that IF her parents deem me worthy, I have to pay £25000 (which I do not have). After an hour or longer my girlfriends mother returned my engagement ring to me (never a good sign). She said she did not want to take a risk on me, and that was her fathers sentiment also. At this point my heart had been ripped from my chest and was beating somewhere on the floor nearby. So then her parents gave me a ride back to my hotel (which they have paid for) in the mercedes and I had the occasional eye contact with her dad who was driving. I think he recognised that I was in my own personal hell, squirming in the back seat with my girlfriend trying to quietly console me, telling me she will never forget me and telling me I did great talking to her mother (scant consolation from someone you consider your soulmate). So I get to the hotel, the moment I walk in the room I burst in to tears (yes, I cried, sad but true), at least I held it in until I was alone
Two hours later I start receiving texts from my girl. She asked ‘my mum wants to know why you have not saved money from working’ I said because I go on a big holiday each year but i will stop that now. My girl then asked ‘if we get married, how often will you return to visit your parents?’ I said once every 2 years or so. Then I get a skype call from my girl. She says that I should go back to UK, earn the £25000 and then I can come to Taiwan on a one year trial to illustrate my competence at adapting to life here. She had convinced her parents to take give me a chance! I do NOT care if anyone thinks I am getting ripped off, I feel like the luckiest man in the World. From despair, to new hope!! I’m gonna go back to Manchester, work my ass off and come back and try my best to get a decent job here. I really do like it here in Taiwan, but in all honesty the only place I consider home is wherever my girlfriend is. Maybe that sounds really cheesey but it is so true. In order to be with her I will do anything, end of….. I have never been on such an emotional rollercoaster in my life and I have had a pretty eventful life! I do not care what happens as long as one day I can look back and think ‘We did it!!!’
well some good and bad news there, but the last bit.. i know how you feel. there’s an old saying, home is where the heart is.
where every my wife to be is, that is where my home is.
guess im lucky she has another sister and a brother, so her parents dont want cash/ have excepted if they want her to get married soon there will be no cash..
oh well, if you think you can make the cash then good on ya, personally what i would do if i knew i was never coming back, would be to go over to the uk, get as many loans and credit cards as possible, rinse them out. then leave and never look back
but thats just me. hahaha
I like your thinking Mark. I would honestly prefer to earn the money in case I ever return to UK but £25000 is a lot in my World so watch this space!!!!!! Her parents do not need money from me. The money is to illustrate that I can support their daughter. Nobody said it was easy, but the fruits of my labor are worth more than 25G’s
Well Bri-Bees
All the best of luck to you.
interesting, they expect you to prove you can provide by giving up all your money :-S
Oh well, need to keep the in-laws happy.
how are you doing now?
My wedding dates been changed to the 15th so I am frantically putting double happiness signs all over the house.
Haha, yeah I’m just saving up, slowly but surely!!! Are you a married man now then? Congratulations and good luck!! Hopefully I can say the same in 12-18 months!!
hey dude, sorry i didnt see the reply you left.. well i did but i forgot about responding
yeah im married to a girl on the mainland (and live there) my little daughter has come out on the 11-1-2011 so is around 8 months old now. all is well (except i am currently in the UK sorting out business and will be back in china in 7 days time)
hows the saving up going? you still planing on coming back over to marry this girl you are head over heals in love with???
also, i have no idea why it put a website in to the link on my last mail :-S
The girls are beautiful indeed! Nice post here about dating in Taiwan.. I can’t wait to go visit there someday for vacation. I have been there already once a couple of years ago but did not do much since I was with my company so.. meeting all day and nights.. but I did meet some very intelligent and attractive Taiwanese girls there.
As a foreigner who has gone through his share of girls here… I’ve notice basically two kind’s of girls in Taiwan. 西餐妹 (Xīcān mèi), and the rest of them. The Xīcān mèi types will strictly go with westerners, and will often be quite forward in their advances. They usually speak decent English, or at least decent enough to talk with a foreign guy with terrible to little Chinese. For some reason or another, these poor girls are no longer considered datable by their Taiwanese male peers, (perhaps she left a boyfriend for a Western guy and then never was able to recover her name back). However, the Western guys they go after usually only want to fuck for a little while, then move on. So these poor Xīcān mèi’s are passed around the bar like a blunt passed around a reggae party.
Some of these Xīcān mèi’s are drop dead gorgeous, and you wonder why the Taiwanese guys don’t go for them anymore, and some of them, well, you can understand why they are not considered datable by the locals.
Although I do agree that the girls in Taiwan are quite easy compared to life back home, you cannot trick yourself into thinking that ALL girls are open to the idea of dating a Westerner. The truth is, Western English teachers DO have the playboy stereotype… and this probably scares away 3 normal Taiwanese girls as it attracts easy Xīcān mèi, if you get my drift.
My problem is, I don’t like Xīcān mèi, but as a Westerner, it’s hard to find anything but that. The only Taiwanese girl I actually really have feelings for is not a Xīcān mèi, and is quite closed to the idea of dating a Western “playboy”.
Anyways, it generally goes like this, the more Chinese one learns, the bigger one’s dating pool becomes. So the bottom line is boys, learn some fucking Chinese, and at least pretend to like singing KTV and eating Hot Pot once in a while.
“and at least pretend to like singing KTV and eating Hot Pot once in a while.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fantastic line there HAHAHAHa
Taiwanese girls aren’t everything! I am a gay Black guy from the states and find the local Taiwanese guys to be something else! Guys that are with their girlfriends are flierting with me. I guess the idea of the big strong black guy is imprinted in the mind of every chinese man that wants to cross the line. I have had hundreds of encounters with chinese guys. I just luv their soft hairless skin and tight little bums.
Dudes, females are the same the world over. They love money. If you are successful and own a business, you will NOT have a problem dating females anywhere in the world. I don’t even bother with american girls. American girls arent “feminists”. They (or western sister) dont even earn as much money as asian american girls or perform as well academically as them. The problem with american females is that they are cougars who hate older white males over 30. So go to asia where the cat eyes are who have eyes for white men over 30.
Hi im sang from kenya want to know more about dating of taiwanese single ladies. Tel me more . Thanks
I know this article is old but it seems to still carry a fair amount of interest. I’m not here to judge or make generalizations, just talk about my own experience which will maybe help you understand yours.
I lived in Taiwan for a year. I split my time in Taipei and Taichung. I honestly had more girls than I knew what to do with, and no I wasn’t chasing them.
I went there to study architecture, my school has an exchange program so I already knew some Taiwanese students who had been to the US. I tutored English majors in the Foreign Language department part time, and made more friends that way. Most girls I slept with were either friends, friends of friends, or girls from the foreign language department. Here’s why I think I got so much, maybe it will work for you:
#1 Most girls I talked to found my sexually liberal attitude refreshing, there seems to be a higher level of conservative sexual behavior which many of the 20-something girls are breaking free from, so having sex with an “open-minded westerner” was probably more appealing to them than a potentially conservative Taiwanese guy who might judge them more harshly.
#2 The foreign language girls usually study western languages, so its easier to communicate with them, plus they’re clearly “in” to your culture as their dedicating their collegiate careers to studying it; it’s the epicenter of western-fever.
#3 I’m attractive, I have a large penis, and I know how to use it well. That sounds douchey and is never something I would say aloud, but that’s an important factor no matter where you go. More importantly, if you sleep with a girl, she’s going to tell her friends about your big cock/awesome skill, and then the friends will want to see for themselves. Always bring your A-game to the bed, because girls talk, and its the easiest way to find more girls.
#4 I remain unconvinced that these girls are only interested in money, because I’m a poor student and did just fine. I’ve got nothing, but my parents are rich. Everyone asks if I come from a rich family, which is strange because I avoid acting like some rich kid at all costs, but apparently it comes through anyway. Whether or not this played a role is uncertain. I would assume that if you are not pleasant to look at, poor in bed, poorly endowed and you still have women chasing you, then it’s gotta be your money.
I’m not going to relate my sexual experiences to Taiwanese culture in general, because frankly, that’s too reductionist (and stupid). From my experiences my advice would be #1 make lots of Taiwanese friends, don’t go straight for the hookup, build a network. #2 bring SOMETHING to the table, especially if it gets girls talking about you and #3 try to find those foreign language girls, its so easy its almost unfair.
Fuck off！！！You are so pathetic, helpless and loser person. You are very typical asshole… and your stupid embarrassing boasts ~~ Man, you are so pitiful. I think that you talking about american college, it is more fits to this story
that is right on the money in most parts! they like english men becsuse we are more gental the Taiwanese guys. Plus we do have bigger dicks. It’s the simple truth. They like the fact we put it all out on the table. Have a laugh.. chat them up. Why not!! Sex will always happen. Its universal
I just love reading this post. I rarely read any posts as I’m out living life, but as life has it, it is always changing. Mine is for the better. That being said, I’m now single and just turned 40 ( I will say for some reason, age has not hit me and I appear late 20′s early 30′s, I’m tall with slim athletic build, have my own place and rent out another with a successful career in Vancouver Canada. Is this too late to travel to Taiwan, stay there, and try to find a wife?? Sounds weird but, what the hell, I’m open to pretty much anything these days.
do it!!
nice post .. would be an eye opener for some laowai
Let me guess.. your American? What state do you come from? Delaware?! How boring can you be. Sex is universal. If a girl is hot and she’s likes a guy. Thats how it happens. None of this myth this myth that. Taiwan girls kick ass! Does it matter where you are in the world? You will always get the fascination of someone from another country. It’s human nature.
So well OK.
You make some factual points but..
I was sent to Tai Chung for 2 months with work and have only just arrived home. The girls there do go crazy for you! Maybe its just me.. I doubt it very much. I do ok with women here in England but over there they can’t get enough of you.
I have never seen so many pretty girls in my life! 30 years old and they look early 20′s!
Yes you see the obvious Americans prowling around the night clubs with 1 thing on his mind and I think they can spot this a mile away! This is what puts them off. I found that they had never been in contact with anyone from England before and having a laugh and offering a nice smile goes a long way. They do sometimes feel shy trying to talk English but if you explain they know more of your language than you know of theirs they are ok. And when they find out your English not American English they relax for some reason.
Well to cut it short.. Within 3 weeks I had been on numerous amounts of dates and had some of the best sex in my life. I even got asked out walking down the street. Within 4 weeks I had met the most stunning girl I had ever seen in my life.. In a night club. A nice night club. She has a good job. I carried on seeing her over the next month. Only her I might add. Got myself all smitten. Cried at the airport.Travelled 6000 miles home. Emailed her everyday since. I go back in 4 weeks and cannot wait to see her again. I’m 33 and feel like a love sick teenager. If it works out it will be the love story of all time. If it does not it wasn’t supposed to be. Either way it will be 1 hell of a memory!
Long live eye contact, a nice smile and 4 simple words that work EVERYTIME in Taiwan.. ni hao piao liang (ne how piaw liang) Trust me.. say this to a girl when you have been chatting a while and she won’t know whats hit her! It means you are very beautiful in simplified translation.
Peace.
white losers get the fuck out of taiwan, and this blog will just bring more trashes to here, it’s ok we have an orignation that is trying to kill white people, so welcome to here